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Wednesday, 29 September 2010

PCC Decision Re. Dr Christian Jessen.

Now that the wheels of procedure have turned, I can let you see the letter I sent to the PCC regarding this article, and their reply, which I received today.
I have to say, it's not good news.  This is the second time the PCC has failed to protect breastfeeding from being maligned in the press this month and you can't help but wonder if the Code needs strengthening?  I am pretty stunned at their decision, especially since Dr Jessen is a medical professional, however but as I'm sure you'll be interested in how they came to their decision here is a copy of my letter to them, and their reply to me:

To whom it may concern – 


I wish to make a formal complaint about an article published in Closer magazine – dated 28th August – 3rd September 2010. The article is by Dr Christian Jessen and forms part of his ‘Ask Dr Christian’ column.

I am concerned that the article breaks the PCC editorial code (section 1) in at least two areas, i) and iii).

1:i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.

In my opinion the information being presented is distorted:

1/ The title of this section ‘Breastfeeding can make your boobs sag – FACT!’ is very misleading. Breastfeeding does not cause breast sagging. It has been clear for some time that the breast changes (breast-ptosis) which occur in women are due to pregnancy and not breastfeeding. Many women who do not breastfeed experience the same phenomenon as they grow older.

A study presented to the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS) Plastic Surgery 2007 conference in Baltimore (and which was widely reported in the press at the time) concluded that:
‘Greater age, higher body mass index, greater number of pregnancies, larger prepregnancy bra size, and smoking were identified as significant independent risk factors for postpregnancy breast ptosis. Breastfeeding was not found to be an independent risk factor for ptosis’
In addition to this, Dr Jessen and Closer magazine stated that:
‘breastfeeding can cause changes to your breasts, including loss of fullness and even dropping, especially if you suffer a lot of mastitis’
Mastitis is most frequently caused by poor breastfeeding management and problems with the baby’s ‘latch’. Failure to mention this simple fact as an important element in prevention of this disease is irresponsible in my opinion.

Mastitis can, therefore, be prevented in the vast majority of cases by a mother having access to good breastfeeding support. Section 7.6 of the WHO Document on Mastitis (2000) states that:
Recurrent mastitis may be due to delayed or inadequate treatment of the initial condition (71) or uncorrected poor breastfeeding technique. 
The best estimates give the number of women suffering from mastitis as something in the region of 10% (WHO)
http://www.cks.nhs.uk/patient_information_leaflet/mastitis# 

Of this 10%, an estimated 3% to go on to suffer a breast absess*.

Therefore the outcome Dr Jessen referred to in his article – changes to the breasts caused by breastfeeding - can be estimated to affect 0.3% of breastfeeding women.
* ‘In approximately 3% of cases where mastitis does develop a breast absess may form’

Therefore the long term damage Dr Jessen refers to in relation to mastitis only occurs in a tiny minority of lactating mothers who develop mastitis in the first place. The disease can also occur amongst the general population – and in’ failing to mention this, the article seems to imply that breastfeeding is the sole cause of this condition.

‘Mastitis is inflammation of the breast with or without infection. Mastitis with infection may be lactational (puerperal) or non-lactational (e.g., duct ectasia). Non-infectious mastitis includes idiopathic granulomatous inflammation and other inflammatory conditions (e.g., foreign body reaction). A breast abscess is a localised area of infection with a walled-off collection of pus. It may or may not be associated with mastitis’

Key to treating mastitis is continued breastfeeding – if a mother reading this article feared she was suffering from the condition she may cease breastfeeding suddenly for fear of causing herself long term damage. This would in fact make the condition worse

By failing to mention the need for continued feeding and professional breastfeeding support in such circumstances, both Dr Jessen and Closer magazine have put their readers at risk of sudden cessation of breastfeeding and therefore further complications.

A WHO document on the illness states that:
‘With timely, appropriate and adequate treatment of mastitis and breast abscess, recovery should be complete, and normal function of the breast can usually be expected with subsequent lactations. However, delayed, inappropriate or inadequate treatment may result in relapse, more extensive lesions and even permanent tissue damage. Repeated episodes of mastitis may give rise to chronic inflammation (141) and irreversible distortion of the breast (134).’
The phrase ‘irreversible distortion of the breast’ here references a 1982 study by Qureshi F. ‘The acute breast abscess. Practical procedures’ (Australian Family Physician).
In the abstract to this study the author states that:
‘irreversible distortion can result from the chronic inflammation and persistent discharge associated with delayed or inadequate drainage of the abscess’ 

However, such a complication is highly unusual and more recent research published on the ‘Best Practice’ section of the British Medical Journal website (copyright 2010) states that:
‘Breast infection, including an abscess that is adequately treated, is unlikely to cause significant breast scarring.  Surgical intervention other than needle aspiration may cause a postoperative scar.  Recurrent infections, TB, and granulomatous mastitis* can cause significant breast deformity.’  

(*Granulomatous mastitis is an autoimmune disease and an extremely rare condition, which usually only affects women between 2 and 6 years after pregnancy.  It is therefore highly unlikely to be caused by normal breastfeeding. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granulomatous_mastitis)

The British Medical Journal article also states that the risk of long-term damage from mastitis is ‘low’ but that the likelihood of what it describes as the ‘complication’ of a woman giving up breastfeeding is ‘medium’.

‘an abrupt cessation of breastfeeding may exacerbate the symptoms of mastitis, and there is an increased risk of breast abscess.’ 
http://bestpractice.bmj.com/best-practice/monograph/1084/follow-up/complications.html

You can see from this that the possibility of long term damage to a woman from discontinuing breastfeeding is higher than if they continue.

In my opinion Dr Jessen’s article in Closer magazine has distorted the facts because it does not give an indication of the true likelihood of a woman suffering the outcome described.

ii) A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and - where appropriate - an apology published.

I emailed the magazine (25th August 2010) to express my concerns (about what is in my opinion a ‘significant inaccuracy’) to the editor and received the following replies for your information:
‘Hello,
Thank you for your email.
I am afraid I cannot recall the April edition in which we give the answer you quote in blocks and italics – if you let me know the page and section of the magazine I will try and retrieve it.
Regarding this weeks answer, I believe Dr. Christian’s response to the question is hugely balanced and gently explains that in case of complications such as mastitis the breast shape can change but that breastfeeding doesn’t automatically lead to sagging breasts.

Kind regards,
Maggie Hitchins Editorial Assistant’

And (when link to their previous article was supplied)

‘Thanks Anne. We have asked Dr Christian to come back to us and I will get back to you then.  Kind regards, Maggie Hitchins  Editorial Assistant’

iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.

Nowhere in the article does it state that this is personal opinion, nor does it cite any scientific references. Doctor Jessen has written the piece to read as fact and I can see no disclaimers. In this respect I feel it contravenes section 1:iii of the code quite clearly.

I look forward to hearing from you regarding the outcome of this complaint.

Best regards,

Response email received today:


Further to our last correspondence, the Commission has now made its assessment of your complaint under the Code of Practice.
The Commission members have asked me to thank you for giving them the opportunity to consider the points you raise. However, their decision was that there was no breach of the Code and a full explanation is enclosed.
Although the Commissioners have come to this view, they have asked me to send a copy of your letter to the editor so that he is aware of your concerns.
If you are dissatisfied with the way in which your complaint has been handled - as opposed to the Commission’s decision itself - you should write within one month to the independent Charter Commissioner, whose details can be found in our How to Complain leaflet or at http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/process.html
Thank you for taking this matter up with us.
Yours sincerely
Elizabeth Cobbe

Commission’s decision in the case of X/Y/Z v Closer
Three complainants were concerned that the article “Fact or Fiction?” had failed to distinguish between comment, conjecture and fact. They argued that as the article had presented the statement “Breastfeeding can make your boobs sag – Fact!” as a fact when evidence exists to the contrary. The complainants said that not only was this misleading to readers but it had potential health implications for them too.
Under the terms of Clause 1 (Accuracy) of the Editors’ Code of Practice, publications must take care to distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact. In this instance, the Commission noted that the article made clear that, firstly, the claims were based on the unique medical opinion of Dr Jessen, and secondly, the inclusion of the term “can” in the phrases “Breastfeeding can make your boobs sag”, “breastfeeding can make your boobs sag” and “pregnancy and complications when breastfeeding can cause changes to your breasts” did not imply that every case of breastfeeding resulted in sagging.

The Commission was satisfied that readers would recognise that the impact of breastfeeding is different for every woman and the article was reporting matters of conjecture, rather than statements of fact. On this occasion, the Commission could not establish a breach of Clause 1 (Accuracy) of the Code.

The Commission acknowledged the complainants’ further concern that the statement “breastfeeding can cause changes to your breasts, including loss of fullness and even drooping, especially if you suffer a lot of mastitis” should have been further substantiated, particularly as one of the complainants indicated that mastitis was a preventable condition. However, the Commission considered that the newspaper was entitled to present Dr Jessen’s view in the manner which it had. Furthermore, the omission of exhaustive detail regarding the wider research that had been conducted on the subject of breastfeeding and the prevention of mastitis was not a matter that rendered the article misleading to any significant degree.
Finally, the Commission turned to the complainants’ concern that readers’ health may be at risk if they stop breastfeeding as a result of the article. While this was not strictly a matter for consideration under the Code, it noted that the conclusion of the article clearly promoted breastfeeding. For example, the author stated that “it has important short and long term health benefits for both mum and baby”. There were no outstanding matters to pursue under Clause 1 (Accuracy).'


I look forward to hearing your thoughts, and regret that Dr Jessen will probably think this gives him a license to continue to denegrate breastfeeding and breastfeeding mums.  It's still possible that he'll be more considered in his public statements from now on, since clearly, we'll be watching him very closely!

Thursday, 23 September 2010

Bridging the Gap

I'm into breastfeeding. Nothing comes close. No-one will ever convince me that it's not the optimal way to nourish and nurture your child. What's more, I think everyone should do it, and I think the benefits for everyone in society would be huge if breastfeeding was 'normal'. As regular readers of this blog will know, I am aware that it's not always easy and sometimes it's very difficult to breastfeed. I am also a huge believer that mothers need guidance and support to be able to do it. In something like 98% of cases, a mother has the potential to entirely sustain, protect, and comfort her baby for the first 6 months of its life and she can continue to do this for years on end. Formula companies can never even hope to compete with something so special. To pretend that formula milk comes even close to the complete, living food that is breastmilk is to live in ignorance.
But.

What about the mothers who don't breastfeed - whether through choice or circumstance? What if they don't provide this 'liquid gold' to their babies? Does it make them bad mothers? Some 'breastfeeding advocates' seem to think that it does.
I'm not one of those people.

I was born and raised in Northern Ireland - I grew up with the Troubles. My father was active in the peace process. He used to say 'you've got to take people with you'.

Now, I'm not for one moment comparing the divide between formula feeding mothers and breastfeeding mothers to the problems in the North of Ireland (although I can think of a few internet posters I wouldn't want to have in the same room!). However, I do think as breastfeeding advocates we need to start 'taking people with us'.....

Many mothers who stop breastfeeding - and even some who never start - experience terrible guilt. They might not admit it publicly, but privately they will tell you that they do. Many others who formula feed feel judged and patronised. They feel that no-one cares about the background to their situation, about why they come to be formula feeding. How can we ever hope to improve breastfeeding rates if this 'them and us' situation continues to prevail? Women who have chosen not to, or who have been unable to breastfeed at one point in time will simply shut their ears. They won't listen and they won't know how to support their friends and daughters if they choose to breastfeed.
Apart from the myriad health benefits of breastmilk itself and the potential risks involved in formula feeding, breastfeeding is more than just breast milk.
It's not just WHAT we feed our babies, it's also HOW we feed them.
Whilst I am aware that many formula-feeding mums take time to cuddle and hold their babies when feeding them, there are others who don't.

I'll be completely honest - I really struggle when I see this:


Cute baby - but although many of you might see nothing wrong with this picture, I feel something is missing - loving arms!
One of my pet-hates is when I'm out and about and I see a baby in a car seat with a bottle propped up in it's mouth.
'But when I'm doing the shopping I'm busy and I haven't got time to hold the bottle' one mother told me during an online discussion.
I guess the products below are ideal if you're too busy to spend time holding your baby.


I doubt very much that I'm the only mother to be bothered by these images. Partly because obviously leaving a baby to 'feed' itself in this manner is dangerous, but also because children fed this way are completely separated from their main care-giver. With breastfeeding the care-giver and the nourishment go hand-in-hand. It's unavoidable and it's not just because the baby is in your arms - it's chemical too.

When a breastfeeding mother gives her baby a feed a hormone called oxytocin is released into her bloodstream. It triggers the 'milk ejection reflex' which allows her milk to flow. This hormone gets into her milk and the baby receives it in the feed.
Oxytocin is very interesting. Recent scientific research has led to a greater understanding of how it works and it's effect on us. Some people have called it 'social glue'.

Oxytocin is also released during labour and birth - the high levels of oxytocin present after birth help mothers to bond with their babies, and cause the uterus to contract helping it to return to it's normal size.
'Oxytocin has been described as the ‘love hormone’ and it is secreted when falling in love with another adult, or a baby, and it makes mothers feel relaxed, contented and less anxious.' ~ New Zealand Ministry of Health
Oxytocin levels are also raised by skin to skin contact, by hugging, kissing, caressing, touching, and by sustained eye contact.  This is my point. Despite not breastfeeding, a mother can encourage increased levels of this hormone in herself and her baby just by keeping the baby close! This is why when I see a baby with a bottle propped up in it's mouth I feel sad. The very thing which would help reduce the loss of the breastfeeding relationship (to both mother and baby!) is not being done.

Now, obviously there are very many mums who formula feed and make a point of keeping their baby close. However, I do see many in real life who do not, and the devices shown above would indicate that there's even a market for products which allow the baby to feed without being held.  I wonder if this difference in HOW we feed is a significant factor in creating the 'lazy mother' myth which quite rightly upsets so many formula feeding mums? 
Ok - so if breastfeeding didn't go well for you, what can you do to minimise the impact of this loss to yourself and your child? Do you really have to 'throw the baby out with the bath-water?'

How many bottle-feeding mothers are aware that by mimicking practices more usually associated with breast-feeding they can increase and enhance their baby's exposure to oxytocin?  Studies into the effects of oxytocin in the body reveal that increasing levels of the hormone in men caused them to be more 'empathetic'.  Some research has been done into the effects of the hormone on high-functioning autism and it concluded:
'we found that after oxytocin inhalation, patients exhibited stronger interactions with the most socially cooperative partner and reported enhanced feelings of trust and preference'.
A study focusing on new parents showed that both genders experience a rise in oxytocin levels during the first six months of their baby's life, and commentators have suggested that this increase may be nature's way of helping the new parents to 'bond' with their offspring.
So how can a formula-feeding mother close the gap between giving her baby a bottle and breastfeeding?  
How can formula feeding mums increase their baby's exposure to this 'social glue'?
  • Feed your baby yourself. Formula feeding frequently means that a very young baby can be passed around from person to person for feeds. Each time this happens an opportunity to foster oxytocin development for both mother and baby is lost. Speaking about recent findings which suggested breastfeeding mums were less likely to abuse their babies, the report's author said:
    "
    Breastfeeding may simply promote that interpersonal bond between a mother and her baby - the physical touch, the holding, the eye-to-eye contact. It ensures that physical touch occurs in an attuned way, but I would imagine a similar result for any mother who has that same one-on-one contact while they're feeding on a regular basis." - Lane Strathearn
  • Have lots of skin to skin contact. Breastfeeding necessitates skin to skin contact with the mother, but just because you bottle-feed doesn't mean you can't enjoy the benefits of skin to skin. 'When mothers hold their nude infants against their chests in direct skin-to-skin contact, increases in maternal responsivity and bonding are observed ... skin-to-skin contact might elicit such effects via elevated oxytocin levels in the caregiver's plasma and cerebrospinal fluid.'
  • Practise 'Attachment Parenting'. Wikipedia lists the following as key to this theory of developmental psychology.
    1. Preparation for Pregnancy, Birth and Parenting 2. Feed with Love and Respect 3. Respond with Sensitivity 4. Use Nurturing Touch5. Ensure Safe Sleep, Physically and Emotionally 6. Provide Consistent Loving Care 7. Practise Positive Discipline 8. Strive for Balance in Personal and Family Life.You can see from the list above that if you bottle-feed it does not mean you cannot  be an 'attachment parent'. For more information about attachment parenting have a look at this website.


  • Baby-wear. This is really an extension of skin-to-skin. Rather than pushing your child around in a buggy, consider using a sling. There are lovely ones out there, and for a fussy or refluxy baby they can be an absolute god-send!
    Recent research has shown that 'Our distant ancestors spent much of their time being held and caressed by their mother, forming a close bond.' ~ Professor Darcia Narvaez, from the University of Notre Dame in Indiana, US  Keeping your child close by baby-wearing helps to reduce anxiety and has myriad other benefits, many of which are listed here. The slings are pretty darn nice too ;)
  • Consider Co-sleeping. There are many benefits to co-sleeping, physical and emotional.  Remember that the term 'co-sleeping' actually covers room-sharing too. Many couples like to remove the side of the cot and push it up to the side of the bed, for example.  Experts strongly advise against bed-sharing if families are formula feeding their babies, as this can have a fundamental affect on their awareness of their babies, the way their baby sleeps, and their natural immunity to certain pathogens in the environment.  More on this is here.*
  • Feed on Demand.  Stop clock-watching!  A historic culture of 'scheduled feeding' has ensured that many bottle-feeding mums still think they should only feed their baby at certain intervals.  The latest advice differs though, the Baby Friendly Initiative recommends demand-feeding whether you breast-feed or bottle feed'You should feed your baby as much as he wants, as often as he asks, provided he is not regurgitating significant amounts.'  They also caution against over-feeding.  I have frequently heard bottle-feeding mothers say 'it's not time for his feed yet'.  My husband likens this to telling your baby 'it's not time for your nappy to be changed'....  Feeding on demand also helps to mimic the 'little and often' feeding pattern that breast fed babies naturally adopt and lessens the likelihood of them bringing up excess milk.  A great article on 'baby-led bottle-feeding' is here.
I am absolutely sure that a lot of formula-feeding mothers who read this blog will already incorporate many of these suggestions into their parenting. I am equally sure that our predominantly formula-feeding culture means that many others do not.
As we strive to promote breastfeeding in our communities, perhaps the best way to do it is to promote a change of parenting culture.

*This section has been edited (10:05:11 & 21:05:12)  and my thanks go to Charlotte for an extremely thought-provoking discussion about co-sleeping!

Links:

http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(07)00617-8/abstract

Saturday, 18 September 2010

Survey again!

Hi there,

I'd be really grateful if you could take 5 minutes to complete our survey. 
It will 'end' on the 31st October.
If you can share this widely that'd be great - especially with your formula-feeding friends!

Thank you!

Click here to start the survey

Friday, 17 September 2010

Survey for DBM

***NEWSFLASH***

YOU CAN NOW COMPLETE THE SURVEY BY CLICKING HERE!



Sorry everyone - the software on the other site worked fine until I tried to access the results!

I put the survey on hold until I figured out a better way to host the survey.... 


*sad face*

Thursday, 16 September 2010

Thrilled to see this...

As I hope you know, I'm hugely grateful to all the mums who have sent in photos for this blog, and to all the members of the facebook group for helping the project to grow.

I was stunned to see DBM appear at number 8 on a list of 50 of the best web resources when it comes to breastfeeding.  The link is here.

You'll see that some of the other sites mentioned here are incredibly well-known and there are some significant websites sadly missing from the list, but it's still lovely to see that DBM is getting noticed.

Let's keep up the good work and continue to confront the breastfeeding myths wherever we meet them!

Thank you everyone for your continued support, and thanks to Christie and The Stir for including us in her list.




Tuesday, 7 September 2010

Breastfeeding Doesn't Cause Saggy Boobs!

There are many myths surrounding breastfeeding and to be honest they’re all pretty unhelpful…
One of the ones you hear most often though, is that breastfeeding your baby will make your boobs saggy.

In one online survey, half of the young women (aged 18-25) polled said they had no intention of breastfeeding, and 32% stated that their reason for making such a decision was that they didn’t want to develop saggy breasts. 
Regardless of the rights and wrongs of such a decision, anyone aiming to encourage women to breastfeed needs to take such figures seriously.

In 2009 there were nearly 700,000 births in England and WalesIf the above poll is in any way representative, that means something in the region of 350,000 mothers (around half) may have chosen not to breastfeed. 
A belief that breastfeeding would adversely affect their figures may therefore have prevented over 200,000 mothers from breastfeeding their babies in England and Wales alone*.  *(Until further research is undertaken these figures are purely speculation on my part, however they are based on a large survey of over 1,000 women).

Setting aside for a moment the range of other issues which influence a woman’s decision concerning how she feeds her baby, these statistics are horrifying because they show a huge degree of ignorance when it comes to the facts

Thousands of women choose never to start breastfeeding because of a myth – they may as well believe the earth is flat.

IT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
Last year thousands and thousands of babies were denied the protection of breast milk and breastfeeding.  Not because their mothers weren’t adequately supported (which is so often the case), but actually because their mothers believed a myth.

One man's FACT is, of course, another woman's 'not proven'.  Some people maintain that greenhouse gases aren't a cause of global warming, or that cigarettes don't cause cancer (my granny smoked until she was 90 etc) - however, for the purposes of this blog, the FACT is that the only research* done into this subject found no connection between breastfeeding and breast sagging.

So who told these women breastfeeding would make their breast sag? Their mothers? Partners? Friends? Doctors?

It’s incredible in the C21st, but this myth is so virulent that despite scientific evidence to the contrary, people still believe it.


So here’s the truth.

Breastfeeding doesn’t make your boobs sag.


Here are some facts on breast sagging (breast-ptosis) and why it happens:

  • The majority of women undergo some breast changes during pregnancy.  These changes include breast enlargement, increased blood flow, the development of small lumps ('Montgomery’s tubercles') on the areola.  These changes happen so as to prepare the breasts for breastfeeding a baby after birth.

  • Many women put on weight during pregnancy and additional fat stores are laid down in the breasts.  This adds to their increase in size.  Both of these changes will result in a stretching of the skin, and stretch marks may appear.

  • In the days and hours following birth, the breasts begin to make milk.  This will happen whether you intend to breastfeed or not.  A few days after birth the milk (usually) ‘comes in’ and many women experience some engorgement.  Their breasts become full and the skin may feel tight and stretched, (breastfeeding is a great treatment for this).  ;)

  • If you don’t breastfeed, the breasts gradually stop producing milk and the engorgement subsides on it’s own as the body realises no milk is required.  The milk-making machinery then shrinks back in a process called ‘breast involution’.  The skin (which has been stretched as explained above) may or may not ‘snap back’ into shape. 

  • The additional weight gain/ breast enlargement caused by pregnancy may have also stretched the ligaments supporting the breast.

  • If a woman smokes, this can affect the ability of her skin to recover from changes (such as those brought on by pregnancy). This is because smoking reduces the levels of collagen and elastin in the body.

  • If a woman continues to breastfeed her breast involution will be delayed and will take place when the child weans

  • Age matters – the older we get, the less collagen and elastin we naturally have in our skin (hence wrinkles!), and so with age everyone sags a bit.  It’s a fact of life.

  • The number of pregnancies you’ve had can also contribute to breast sagging. The associated weight gain/ weight loss and breast enlargement/ breast involution is to blame. Basically, the more pregnancies you have the more you’re putting your body through & the harder it will find it to recover.

  • The bigger your breasts are anyway, the more likely they are to head south at some point.  This is because of gravity and the weight of the breast pulling on the supporting ligaments.

  • There is evidence to show that wearing a bra actually weakens the ligaments supporting the breast (as they are not being used) and therefore contributes to breast ptosis. 

  •  If you lose a lot of weight, your skin may struggle to shrink back once the fat has gone – this can leave your breasts looking ‘empty’. Again, the supporting ligaments may have been stretched in the past.

  • Breastfeeding has not been found to be a cause of breast-ptosis.

Breastfeeding helps the body to recover from the changes of pregnancy because it helps the uterus to return to it’s pre-pregnancy size.  It also uses up additional calories and therefore assists in post-pregnancy weight loss.

Take a look around you.  Can you honestly say you can tell from looking which of the mothers you see out and about have breast-fed?  Can you tell if their impressive cleavage is down to a good bra, a set of chicken fillets, good genes, a good surgeon or a breast full of milk?

Didn’t think so.

For those interested in the studies into breast ptosis:
*http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19083576
*http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1651-2227.2004.tb02935.x/abstract